Craig Hill
TracyTHE STORY OF THE JOKER PICTURES
April 23rd 2007 15:39
So what's up with all the joker pictures getting published here and there and everywhere? Why bother when ultimately nothing is fully reliable anyway?
Well, it's fun. Like the biggest breaking scoop since the first picture of Venom. So here's the whole story until today.
After Christopher Nolan made Batman into something far cooler than expected with Batman Begins, everyone started to whisper about what the sequel, The Dark Knight, will be about and what villain will be used. Well, not exactly, but anyway soon enough we found out the Joker would return. And then that he would be played by Heath Ledger. Exciting news.
The Joker is probably one of my favorite villains of all time. Jack Nicholson made him great.
More than a year until release and people are eager to get hold of a glimpse of the Joker. Any glimpse, whatever the quality is and whatever its originality is. And that's where our story begins.
WANTED: Scary smiling guy with scars all over his face, gray skin and raggedy costume.
The first picture that came out was this comic picture found in one of the comics. It suits the above description very well and therefore quickly became the template of how the final joker will look like. More info can be found here.
The second picture released on the net was this very blurry shot that Superherohype got to. At least it's real and shows (tries to show, really) Heath Ledger being on the set. If you have this kind of access to the set of Batman you don't carry an old cell-camera for God's sake! So of course it wasn't good enough for all the fans...
Now the backstory of this pic, that AICN published, is more complicated. Either it's something a smart-ass made in photoshop or something Warner Bros. actually created as a "concept picture", a picture of Heath Ledger digitally remade to test make-ups and stuff. Both seem logical to me. Whatever the case is, it's definitely not something original and therefore should be ignored right away.
Finally we got a true but still non-official picture, again from AICN. IT'S FAKE FOLKS, AICN GOT PUNK'D THREE TIMES BY NOW. Heath is still nowhere to be found. Why? Because it's only a fake make-up test. At least it's something by Warner Bros. and therefore reliable. We can now see how the Joker's scars will be, his skin, his hair, etc. A lot to be made yet and I'm certain that the film will show the Joker much more interesting than this.
Summary: The Joker is almost found but still on the run. Be careful for all the copycats out there and if you get over a true and good picture of him, you'll be awarded with the glory of the whole wide net. If you send it to me that is.
Until then, go see Spiderman 3 and hang around for other news!
//filmpeeker
Well, it's fun. Like the biggest breaking scoop since the first picture of Venom. So here's the whole story until today.
After Christopher Nolan made Batman into something far cooler than expected with Batman Begins, everyone started to whisper about what the sequel, The Dark Knight, will be about and what villain will be used. Well, not exactly, but anyway soon enough we found out the Joker would return. And then that he would be played by Heath Ledger. Exciting news.
The Joker is probably one of my favorite villains of all time. Jack Nicholson made him great.
More than a year until release and people are eager to get hold of a glimpse of the Joker. Any glimpse, whatever the quality is and whatever its originality is. And that's where our story begins.
WANTED: Scary smiling guy with scars all over his face, gray skin and raggedy costume.
The first picture that came out was this comic picture found in one of the comics. It suits the above description very well and therefore quickly became the template of how the final joker will look like. More info can be found here.
The second picture released on the net was this very blurry shot that Superherohype got to. At least it's real and shows (tries to show, really) Heath Ledger being on the set. If you have this kind of access to the set of Batman you don't carry an old cell-camera for God's sake! So of course it wasn't good enough for all the fans...
Now the backstory of this pic, that AICN published, is more complicated. Either it's something a smart-ass made in photoshop or something Warner Bros. actually created as a "concept picture", a picture of Heath Ledger digitally remade to test make-ups and stuff. Both seem logical to me. Whatever the case is, it's definitely not something original and therefore should be ignored right away.
Summary: The Joker is almost found but still on the run. Be careful for all the copycats out there and if you get over a true and good picture of him, you'll be awarded with the glory of the whole wide net. If you send it to me that is.
Until then, go see Spiderman 3 and hang around for other news!
//filmpeeker
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Comment by yoda76
The Tube Blog
I really wasn't impressed with Batman Begins at all, much less revisiting old ground with it now - Nicholson's Joker was probably the best comic-book villain ever.
Bring back Tim Burton I say...
Comment by Filmpeeker
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You didn't enjoy BB??? That's a new one...
Burton is one of my favorite directors, but his Batmans were not much compared to this one. I think.
Have a nice one,
filmpeeker
Comment by yoda76
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We will have to agree to disagree on that one. BB had some nice moments, for for the most part I found it boring, self-inflated and trying to be something that it very much was not. Nice idea, didn't work for me.
But obviously that was just me
Comment by Filmpeeker
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I can understand what you're saying but still think BB was great. Tom's wife ruined it a bit, but otherwise it was solid.
Comment by David
there's a few comic books I was a big fan of when I was a kid ... Superman, Batman, and the Phantom mainly ...
And, Hollywood has butchered them all in their film versions ...
Batman included ...
They have not portrayed the essence of the comic books themselves ... nor captured the true essence of the characters at all ...
They have turned them into cinematic rubbish and garbage ...
Comic books are not MTV ... they are comic books ...
As faggoty and gay and camp as the Batman TV series was? It still sticks to the essence of the comic book much more than any cinematic version ..
I find the cinematic versions of these films so disgustingly off the mark, I refuse to watch them ...
I'm not the biggest fan of Spielberg ...but at least he unerstands what childhood wonder is all about ... and these people in HOllywood are turning comic books into pulp porn ... destroying the essence of the childhood wonder true comic book fans had when they first read about their superheroes ...
I might be a person who loves tits and flange and all that ... fair enough ... I'm an adult now ... (but not in a film version of a comic book ... make it for the kids and stick to the integrity of what the comic book creator intended would be the way I'd go about it as a screenwriter and make kids' eyes pop with wonder, not at some starlets tits but at the adaptation itself ...
These films make me sick ... (and it takes something pretty gross to make me feel sick ... [but when it comes to kids' wonderment? That does make me sick ... the way Hollywood just ignores all that for the sake of portraying a woman's tits ... and then going ... What a great 'adult' film this was ...
Finished ranting and raving now ...
David ...
Comment by Filmpeeker
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So, you didn't like Batman? LOL
Sorry, actually I haven't read the comics as much as many have, so I can't compare in the same way, but to me it seems like this is the correct path to go.
I mean, sure the new Batman might not be for really young kids or capture the innocence of the comic, but it's still a great movie.
Sometimes I just feel people should relax a bit. Movies are art and entertainment. Look at Batman and Spiderman as two great flicks and not as the comic in screen mode. Cause both the medium and audience is different.
I don't know, some it bothers some it doesn't.
Not me. I get bothered by bad movies, not bad adaptations, which most of the times is the same thing, but not always.
Thanks for stopping by,
filmpeeker
Comment by David
No-one relaxes more in life than I do ...
There's just a couple of things that make me non-relax ...
Bad adaptations just happens to be one of them ...
But I can see it from your point of view as well ... (as a movie independent of what it was adapted from ...
It just disappoints me when they do that ... because I'm looking forward to a semi-faithful adaption ... just as I am with stage or novel adapted to the screen ... (It doesn't have to be everything the stage play or novel was ... but just tap into the essence of what the original creator had in mind ...
If that's not there? ... It can be as good as film as it likes to be in other people's minds ...but it will always be a failure or a flop in mine ...
But that being written ... the modern world is crazy ... so let them enjoy those things, I say, if that's their scene ... It just doesn't do it for me ...
So enjoy them ...
David ...
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Comment by Trouble98
However, if we're going to create a new movie with the loved character Batman, get some new villians.
Was it not Tim Burton who created Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson in a very dark and confusing adaptation of Batman?
What about Danny DeVito as The Penguin - Batman Returns was also dark.
It wasn't until Batman Forever when it began to be a bit more show-ey...but Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face - killer!
As I said in the beginning - bring a new Batman to the theaters - go ahead! But, bring new villians into the movie!
Comment by yoda76
The Tube Blog
Yep - don't go over the same ground.
Comic books are not MTV ... they are comic books
Precisely. It's like bagging 300 'cause it's "historically inaccurate".
It's a MOVIE, people... NOT a comic. You want a comic? Read a comic.
Comment by JoshZ
A Simple Christian
Personally, The original Joker in the original Batman movie (by original I mean the one with Nicholson) was the coolest character in that movie. To a degree, I actually watched it more for him than I watched it for Batman.
I also liked BB the most of all the movies. Christian Bale is the perfect Batman. He was also brilliant in Equilibrium.
JZ
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Looking forward to the next one.
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if you actually read the comics you would know that batman did turn sadistic and the villains were the same.
and comics were just like t.v. and they did add sex. sure they made child books but have you read the ones recently? or the novels?
i loved the dark knight and heath ledger brought out the "essence" off killing for a joke and doing it harshly. if you did read the comic you would have seen that they actually follow the charters and portray them like there suppose to and if your going to say "but they did this off older comics." thats not effin true! they want it modern. and i agree with the person that posted before me.
if you want to say anything you should actually read the comics, instead of saying you did and dont know what the f*** your talking about!